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Monday, 27 March 2017

Dandasana as Samastithi : Proficient Primary.

Posted on March 27, 2017 by ravi
I hear that one of my Ashtanga heroes Chuck Miller, devotes much of his workshops to Samasitithi, 


"On the first day of practice, we stood in samstithi for what felt like hours, while Chuck told us about the importance of this word, sama, and how it had risen to the top of his yogic chart, giving a directionality to all the postures, a place to move towards. He explained, as our legs began to burn and our shoulders involuntarily hunched up only to be pulled back down by his firm reminders of maintaining samastithi, that sama, same-ness, non-separateness is the goal; that yoga is the process of waking up to the realization of non-separation. That there is no separation between the feet and the earth that they press against; the earth gives back as much as we give her. We pressed our feet and grew taller; we swayed a bit, but returned to our core using the breath. Our fingertips grew heavy towards the earth. Our sacrum broadened. He placed a deity inside our bodies, her feet on our pelvic floor, her palms pressing against the inside of our breastbones. Our collective hearts expanded, and we grew roots that connected us to our core." from HERE


I was reminded of this while in dandasana this morning, I felt as if I could stay there all day, all practice at least. Ramaswami refers to Dandasana as Samasithi for seated postures. Just as his teacher Krishnamacharya had taught him, Ramaswami suggested that we might employ many of the hand/arm movements that we had learned from him in tadasana. 


Following Krishnamacharya's early instruction we might also employ a long stay in dandasana, we might explore kumbhaka, holding the breath in after inhalation or out after exhalation. We may explore dandasana just as we might tatkamudra with a deep uddiyana bandha.

Here's Krishnamacharya from Yoga Makaranda and the dandasana before folding forward into paschimattanasana

"In the 6th vinyasa, doing puraka kumbhaka, jump and arrive at the 7th vinyasa (Dandasana). That is, from adhomukhasvanasana sthiti, jump forward and move both legs between the arms without allowing the legs to touch the floor. Extend the legs out forward and sit down. Practise sitting like this with the rear part of the body either between the two hands or 4 angulas in front of the hands. It is better to learn the abhyasa krama from a guru. In this sthiti, push the chest forward, do puraka kumbhaka and gaze steadily at the tip of the nose".

Context

"Pascimattanasana or Pascimottanasana 
This asana has many kramas. Of these the first form has 16 vinyasas. Just doing the asana sthiti by sitting in the same spot without doing these vinyasas will not yield the complete benefits mentioned in the yoga sastras. This rule applies to all asanas.
The first three vinyasas are exactly as for uttanasana. The 4th vinyasa is caturanga dandasana, the 5th vinyasa is urdhvamukhasvanasana, the 6th vinyasa is adhomukhasvanasana. Practise these following the earlier instructions. In the 6th vinyasa, doing puraka kumbhaka, jump and arrive at the 7th vinyasa. That is, from adhomukhasvanasana sthiti, jump forward and move both legs between the arms without allowing the legs to touch the floor. Extend the legs out forward and sit down. Practise sitting like this with the rear part of the body either between the two hands or 4 angulas in front of the hands. It is better to learn the abhyasa krama from a guru. In this sthiti, push the chest forward, do puraka kumbhaka and gaze steadily at the tip of the nose. After this extend both arms out towards the feet (the legs are already extended in front). Clasp the big toes of the feet tightly with the first three fingers (thumb, index, middle) of the hands such that the left hand holds the left big toe and the right hand holds the right big toe. Do not raise the knees even slightly. Then, pull in the stomach while doing recaka, lower the head and press the face down onto the knee. The knees should not rise from the ground in this sthiti either. This is the 9th vinyasa. This is called pascimottanasana." Krishnamacharya - Yoga Makaranda (Mysore 1934).

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In the Proficient Primary approach to practice that I devote a page to at the top of the blog, treating asana as mudra, I would often include a deep uddiyana bandha. Recently I've been questioning bandhas more and more and include them less often, mostly in tatkamudra, dandasana and perhaps maha mudra, more out of affection and familiarity perhaps rather than anything else.

from my fb post this week on bandhas.
A year on from the series of Proficient Primary posts and I'm questioning the purpose of bandhas' more and blackberries, certainly engaged as fully as this. In a recent video demo Sharath said the 'cheat' jump back from padmasan served no purpose, then the approach Demonstrated That supposedly Engages bandhas .... though I used to practice and enjoy That same transition I can not help but ask now, what is the purpose of bandhas? Are they Merely Tantra inspired Hatha practice of no value whatsoever for 'Patanjali's' Ashtanga. Are they only of benefit Within Hatha practice, the internal muscle control That may or may not involve offering support for certain challenging asanas or extreme Pranayama techniques That Merely give yoga teachers something to teach and are, if we are honest perhaps, surplus to requirements. If we are practicing Ashtanga, then why do we allow ourselves to become distracted know. A criticism of Those Who leave Ashtanga That is Often they could not face the boredom of the same series asanas day in, day out, Are not we who stay Within Ashtanga Often guilty of the same, blackberries asanas, the next series, in new transition, ever fancier, floatier transitions, blackberries anatomy awareness than Necessary, blackberries alignment, blackberries Pranayama techniques, longer retentions, blackberries Sanskrit, blackberries .... texts, learn more chants, learn to chant the whole Yoga sutras rather than Merely do as it says and basically cultivate, or rather embrace, boredom, work on the yama / niyama of our cultures, basic asanas , nadi shodhana and Sit.

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In the first video below, from a few years back, I offer the more gently vinyasa krama entry to dandasana. In the second video, an Ashtanga Vinyasa jump through followed by some hand arm movements in dandasana.

In the appendix I include the dandasana section from my Proficent Primary page. 

NOTE: My friend Francesca has kindly translated my Proficient Primary post into Italian here 
https://kalyavinyasa.blogspot.jp/2017/03/n-approccio-avanzato-alla-prima-serie_26.html?spref=fb

Vinyasa Krama lead in to Dandasana



Vinyasa Krama Dandasana subroutine
I jump into Dandasana four minutes in, before that there is a slow Sun salutation.



Appendix

from

Proficient Primary.

If advanced asana can be endlessly promoted through Instagram then perhaps we can also promote Primary asana and the proficiency we can explore there, in postures that most can approach. 


http://grimmly2007.blogspot.jp/p/proficient-primary-project.html



2. Dandasana/Pascimattanasana/ Asvini Mudra


Asvini mudra locates between Dandasana and Paschimattanasana, before lowering into asana we may practice the posture as mudra. Krishnamacharya's third son T.K.Sribhashyam indicates that his father suggested practicing Kapalabhati here, 32 or 64 times. We may also practice 12 Ujjayi breaths, sama vrtti (equal) the same long slow inhalation, perhaps 8-10 seconds followed by kumbhaka (breath retention) as with the long slow exhalation and it's kumbhaka. After the exhalation we might engage uddiyana bandha more fully along with mula bandha. Jalandara bandha is engaged throughout.

As mentioned in the earlier post we might employ the default points of focus, Bhrumadhya (between the eyebrows) where the head is up or Nasagra (tip of nose) when the head is down as here with the jalandara bandha.

Mudras unite the body with the mind, internal points of focus and concentration may be employed, indeed they are recommended.

In Asvini Mudra we might shift the concentration on the inhalation from mula (perinium), to Sroni (centre of pelvis), to nabhi (navel), to hrdaya (middle of heart), to Kantha (back of throat). Focus on Bhrumadhya (between the eyebrows) on the kumbhaka after inhalation. Exhalation is always only one concentration point, here nabhi (navel).

Asvini Mudra is a recognised mudra however we might also take a 'mudra like' approach to Paschimattanasana itself. Given the deep fold, a longer exhalation is suited, kumbhaka and a deeper uddiyana bandha might be employed. On the shorter inhalation the jalandara bandha may be slightly relaxed we may even lift slightly out of the fold on the inhalation before folding back in on the next exhalation engaging jalandara fully again in time for the next kumbhaka.

Krishnamacharya suggests staying in Paschimattanasana for around ten minutes and indicates it is a key posture to be practiced daily along with its counterposture Purvotanasana.

For more on the practice of mudra and internal concentration points see T.K Sribhashyam's Emergence of Yoga.
see also this earlier post
http://grimmly2007.blogspot.jp/2015/05/krishnamacharya-and-burmese-buddhist.html



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Wednesday, 23 December 2015

Book review OM The world of Ashtanga Yogis - Plus my own answers to the nine questions.

Posted on December 23, 2015 by ravi
Angelique Boudet let me know she had self published a book of Ashtanga Interviews  I bought the Ebook and have posted some quotes below.

The first friend I mentioned it too asked why would we want to buy a book of Ashtanga Interviews when we have Lu Duong going to all the trouble of interviewing Ashtanga teachers and posting the interviews for free on his site Ashtanga Parampara, there is an excellent interview with Tim Feldmann just uploaded today in fact. http://www.ashtangaparampara.org/Tim-Feldmann.html 

And of course we also have Guruji, the book that probably started the Ashtanga teacher interviewee format, essential reading as it overcome once and for all the idea that there was only one 'correct' way of teaching or approaching this practice.



And of course podcast interviews

I myself was interviewed by Claudia for her Yoga Podcast

Peg has excellent interviews on  Ashtanga Dispatch with the Podcast interviews

and Ryan Spieman has some Ashtanga interviews on his Lonely Guru podcast

... anyone else?


In his interviews Lu focusses on parampara of course ( although not exclusively and I tend to skip over those bits, it's not a concept I'm interested in personally, respect and gratitude towards my teachers feels sufficient), this new book focusses on nine questions, the same nine questions to each of the interviewees. It's a nice conceit in principle but I'm not sure it works in practice, it can become a little tedious, at times. I found myself almost shouting at the author to ask follow up questions, to pin down or push the interviewee a little but the only interviewers I know who are doing that effectively are our friends at Wildyogi.

There are still some good quotes to be found in the book, I read it on the long commute from my home beside Lake Biwa to Osaka. Interviews with Mark Darby, David Roche and Louise Ellis stood out for me and Chuck Miller of course, some of the other interviewees unfortunately seemed to see it as an opportunity to promote their shala.

Angelique is a photographer so much of the book is taken up with her photos.

Here are some quotes for each of the nine questions that stood out for me and below that my own attempt at the questions.
Available from here
http://www.blurb.fr/b/6565494-om-the-world-of-ashtanga-yogis



The nine questions

1 — How did you start practicing yoga ?

“Krishnamacharya was my very first guru then Patthabi Jois. Together we discussed every day, experiencing and practicing. 
In this way, we studied for seventy years. 
I actually started at the age of thirteen.” B.N.S. Iyengar


2 — Could you please tell us how the yoga 
has changed your life ? 

“Yoga has changed my life in every way conceivable and became a constant but evolving presence in my daily life” Louise Ellis


3 — What does it bring to you presently ? 
Could you tell us what your actual practice is ?

“   Yoga continues to help me see myself as I am now. Still trying to re-
turn to my found mantra : Be Here Now ! Thank you Ram Das !” Chuck Miller


4 — Would you ever stop practicing ?

“Would you ever stop practicing ?” is a strange question to me and 
I am not sure now what it means ! Some great person said when you 
first find yoga you have to practice yoga. After you become a yogi everything you do is yoga. That resonates with me. Practice takes so many different forms for me now ! I still maintain a regular meditation practice, an asana practice and a pranayama practice because they help me feel more comfortable and help to keep my mind sharp. And, just realizing I am drifting out of the present moment and then returning with my breath back to the here and now is also my practice, as far as I am concerned !” Chuck Miller

5 — What do you think about the fact that Westerners are getting more and more interested in, and involved, with yoga ?

“Yoga is very young in the West and we approach it from a western psychology. We, in the West, are very extroverted, we are competitive. We need to be seen. It is about achievement, ambition. In the East, people are more introspective. They are more community minded. We are more individualistic, in that way needing to be seen, but also mainly people have the same basic needs, desires and challenges. I think it is maturing because yoga is so young in the West, people are ready and I’m seeing it. People want the psychology, they want The Yoga Sutras, they want to understand it. They feel how it works, they want to know how it works and to understand the psychology. In the East, Hatha Yoga is just a very little piece of it but it makes sense that in the West we are attracted to it because we are physical, we are in the body, we are in the world in a different way. ” Bhavani Maki


6 — What is your opinion about Westerners’ practice and of the practice of yoga in your country ?

“I do not have an opinion about ‘Westerners’ or ‘Not Westerners’. I am glad for anyone who has found a practice, whatever that 
practice may be and however it supports them in their lives.” Lucy Scott

7 — According to you, how does yoga transform people and why does it help to change the world ?

“ I think yoga has the power to give you much more clarity, to become more and more aware, awake. And the main problem we have is that 
the individual is deeply asleep, we are an irresponsible, unconscious and childish society, and most of our problems have to do with that.” Jose Carballal

8 — In which way is yoga important to you ? 
How does it affect you ?

“One takes the Great Vow of yoga to observe the Yamas and Niyamas, then one has a pattern of how to conduct oneself as an individual and as a member of society. Practicing asana and pranayama brings not only physical and mental quiet ; they strengthen the bodymind complex to permit moving more fully disciplined into the areas of pratyahara - withdrawal of the senses, dharana - concentration, dhyana - meditation and samadhi. Being so involved in these pursuits makes one more conscious of his or her actions and their effects on their family, their community, and their world. ”
David Roche

9 — What is your dearest wish ?”

“I am pretty content as I am, I think that if you have a wish it becomes a desire and I don’t think desires are very good for spiritual practice.” Mark Darby

“My dearest wish is to hurt less the people I love,”Tim Feldman


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view of the mountains from outside my house

And my own answers to the nine questions - you can tell perhaps that I started to find the questions quite tedious. But then, really, what questions would I ask that are any better other than why think about it when I could be practicing more.

1 — How did you start practicing yoga ?

See my series of posts Developing a home practice. Basically I was burgled, had seven vintage saxophones stolen ( I'm also a repairer), was angry about it but more angry that I was angry. Decided to start meditating again, picked up the most manly book on yoga in the library (just happened to be Ashtanga) and started practicing on a towel in my pants in the hope it would help me sit more comfortably while meditating.

2 — Could you please tell us how the yoga has changed your life ?

It hasn't, I'm still attached to the world, perhaps a little more focussed... and there are moments in those short kumbhaka in asana when the world drops away and there is just perhaps *awareness of awareness. Occasionally that happens for little longer while sitting.

*Just enough of a hint, suggestion to make me think that Patanjali's project really is worth pursuing and that Krishnamacharya may have been on to something with hi kumbhaka in asana.

3 — What does it bring to you presently ?
Could you tell us what your actual practice is ?

When the above happens.... peace. In general my asana practice brings me more discipline, hopefully it helps keeps me healthier. My current approach to practice is outlined in this post Slow Ashtanga

 4 — Would you ever stop practicing ?

I practice less asana, no longer stick the the series, see this post Slow Ashtanga, it's debatable whether I still practice Ashtanga, Krishnamacharya's early Ashtanga or Vinyasa Krama But I can't imagine not practicing some asana as preparation for and a support for my yoga practice

5 — What do you think about the fact that Westerners are getting more and more interested in, and involved, with yoga ?

Purusha doesn't have brown skin, nor a dialect, language, culture or history, so....

6 — What is your opinion about Westerners’ practice and of the practice of yoga in your country ?

As # 5

7 — According to you, how does yoga transform people and why does it help to change the world ?

It doesn't.....few if any of us are actually practicing yoga, mostly we're just playing at it.

8 — In which way is yoga important to you ?
How does it affect you ?

Hope

9 — What is your dearest wish ?”

To do less no harm


Update: I'm thinking I might revisit my, off the top of my head, response to these questions in a few days and flesh them out a bit.
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